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Published in Household Bills on 18 August 2008

Water bills are set to stretch your household finances even further. Here's how to beat the price hikes.

It feels like the cost of living is going up faster than Usain Bolt’s world record-breaking 100 metres! Food, petrol and energy prices have already increased way above the official rate of inflation. As if that wasn’t stretching your finances enough, now rising water bills look set to be the next blow to your budget.

Water companies have just submitted pricing proposals to the water regulator, Ofwat. In November 2009, Ofwat will review whether each company can justify new charges for the period from 2010 to 2015. But the initial pricing estimates suggest many of you will be paying more for your water bills, with price hikes over and above the rate of inflation.

Prices vary depending on the water company, although for most of us, the combined bill for water and sewerage currently costs about £1 a day. Let's take a look at some of the new pricing proposals: 

Thames Water -- the UK’s largest water company -- supplies 13 million people across London and the Thames Valley. The company wants to increase water bills by more than 3% above inflation for each of the five years. In 2014/15 the average bill will be £329 for water and sewerage, which is £46 higher than the proposed 2009/10 prices.

Meanwhile the second largest water company, Severn Trent, wants to increase prices by slightly more than inflation throughout the five-year period.

But it's not all bad news. People living in Wales should do better with Welsh Water planning no real increase in average household bills after 2010, although prices will rise in line with inflation.

Why are water bills set to rise?

For Thames Water it’s to cover the cost of a planned £6.5 billion investment over the five years to sustain service levels, reduce leakage and supply an extra 380,000 people who are expected to arrive in the region. More generally, the water industry as a whole faces increased operating costs following significant hikes in energy prices. On top of that, investment in new infrastructure and improving environmental quality will force your bills up.

But how can you keep your water bills down?

Eight ways to cut your water bill:

1. Have a water meter installed

To save money on your water bill you will need to have a water meter fitted first. A non-metered supply is subject to fixed costs regardless of how much -- or indeed, how little -- water you use. By fitting a water meter you will only pay for the water you actually use, which means you will probably be more conscious of the amount of water you’re getting through, helping to keep your bill down too. 

Many people find they are better off with a water meter. What’s more, the meter should be installed free of charge and if you change your mind, you can go back to a non-metered supply (as long as you do so within the period specified by the water company. Typically this could be 12 or 18 months).

2. Fix leaks

Dripping taps and leaking pipes and appliances really are money down the drain. You would be amazed how much water is wasted just by letting a tap drip all day long.

3. Energy-efficient white goods

Don’t run your washing machine or dishwasher half full. When you need to buy new white goods go for energy-efficient appliances that use the least amount of water. If you’re not sure, check with the manufacturer before you buy.

4. Don’t run taps when you don’t need to

Don’t leave the tap running constantly while you’re brushing your teeth or shaving. Turn the tap off so you only use what you need. Not doing so could waste ten litres of water alone. And the same goes for washing-up. Use a bowl of water rather than running the tap.

5. Use a water hippo

Older style water cisterns -- those installed before 1993 -- use around 9 to 12 litres for flushing. Put in an easy to fit water hippo -- or other similar device -- and instantly reduce the amount of water you use.

6. Take a shower instead of a bath

A quick shower should use far less water than a bath. But be careful if you have a power shower because it can use more water in five minutes than it takes to fill your bath.

7. Use a sponge to wash your car

Using a hosepipe could easily waste around 90 litres of water in just ten minutes. Using a bucket and sponge to wash your car is far more water-efficient.

8. Keep cool drinking water in the fridge

Rather than running the tap to get it cold.

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palexgood 19 Aug 2008, 7:13am

Your right about the water meter. Living alone I saved 60%. However, I've had my meter hugely misread. Utility companies always seem to over read rather than under read,76 instead of 16 by the water company. What's your experience of readings?


The water hippo may NOT be a good idea. Drainage systems were designed in the days when toilets flushed gallons. If the gradient is not adequate you may suffer blocked drains.

Tonyblue 19 Aug 2008, 7:21am

I have had a water meter for many years.I use rain water from a rain water barrel to flush the loo, especially easy if one lives in a bungalow. I keep a supply in old plastic milk bottles. My current monthly direct debits are £6.30.

deckshair 19 Aug 2008, 7:23am

When recommending water meters be sure to emphaise the living alone. It is not so clever when the family comes along or wants to buy your home.
Anyone else hear radio 4 last week when they stated the UK gets less rainfall than parts of Africa?

LINLEYSHAW 19 Aug 2008, 7:31am

Saving water in shower.
This works only with a cold combi boiler. Run hot tap for a few seconds to fire up the boiler. Wait 10 seconds for the boiler to get up to heat. Then run hot tap till the water is hot. Switch on the shower at this point. Saves cold water and gas.This also works in with a mixer tap in the kitchen.

doloskea 19 Aug 2008, 7:33am

For millions of people living in blocks of flats, water meters are not an option, and we're forced to pay some "average" amount for our water services. So, although I use as little water as possible for the sake of the planet and my conscience, there's actually an incentive to use as much as possible, to ensure I'm getting my money's worth!

Most toilets I use these days seems to need two or even three flushes to clear solid waste, which surely cancels out any saving from using less water per flush. A more efficient design of toilet would make much more of a difference.

Chrisandrea 19 Aug 2008, 7:45am

Bath with a friend!

eebee100 19 Aug 2008, 7:50am

Another way to save water is to only use the water that you actually need for your cuppa. Heating the whole kettleful will waster water and gas or electricity

Kitxp123 19 Aug 2008, 7:56am

Water Meters are NOT always the best option.
As far as I can tell from speaking with freinds and comparing bills households with 1 or 2 people seem to benefit from a meter, however, households of 3+ (ie. me) end up paying more (as I have.
Jane should really tell both sides of the story before telling all readers to get a meter.
Also...
Although I'm not a fan of 'water hippos' I do know that Severn Trent are offering free Save-a-Flush bags to their customers. If anyone is interested please visit http://www.stwater.co.uk/server.php?show=nav.5795

mrtricky007 19 Aug 2008, 8:02am

Locally within the Bournemouth & West Hants area if you move house you're forced to have a water meter (free of charge) whether you want it or not and there's no option to revert to ratable value.
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I thought the water companies were obliged by law to have sorted out a way of charging for water other than that based on the ratable value of your property hence the birth of the water meter although I don't know what timescale they had to complete the transition by - that's probably been conveniently forgotten....

jeremybentham 19 Aug 2008, 8:18am

In the long run the 'water rate' is a better deal than the water meter. With the price linked to the property you occupy it tends to reflect your ability to pay and, more importantly, it does not rise when your cash strapped growing family uses more water. So it costs more per capita when the family grows up and leaves home, but that simply represents a socially desirable inter-generational transfer. Meters are also extremely costly to operate relative to the cost of water, if everyone had them water bills would rise disproportionately... which might be why water companies favour them. As a way of reducing consumption, public appeals, incidentally, have proved to be more effective than metering.
In the 1970's California drought the City of Berkeley posted official notices "Shower with a friend" - much more fun that meters !

thenikjones 19 Aug 2008, 8:36am

Water Meters are NOT always the best option.
As far as I can tell from speaking with freinds and comparing bills households with 1 or 2 people seem to benefit from a meter, however, households of 3+ (ie. me) end up paying more (as I have.


The rule of thumb is, if there are more bedrooms than occupants, get a meter.

caslass 19 Aug 2008, 8:38am

in reply to mrtricky007, in 1991 the water companies wanted to compulsory meter everyone, then in the middle 1990's they had to take out or seal off water meters that had been put in on a compulsory basis. However, any houses built since 1991 (I think) or certainly the mid 1990s automatically have a water meter fitted, and you can't have it taken out, that was the deal struck with ofwat/the government. I live on my own and my bill had decreased by over £300 per year since having a meter fitted compared to the old rateable value, if you are going to have one fitted keep a check on your meter readings and if its more expensive get them to cap it off within the 12 month initial period.

devonmaid 19 Aug 2008, 8:49am

If you live in the west country S West Water want to increase our water rates by 12.5% if you are on a water meter and 40% if you are not. In April I rang the company to ask how much our water rates would be this year if we didn't have a water meter and on a Band D house they were going to be £1009.00 per year so with a 40% increase the water rates will rise to the £1400's the most expensive water in the country. This is because the SW residents have had to pay for the clean up of the water and coasts in this area and because we are a tourist zone, I don't think we get any help from the government, Other people think they are hard done by, Thames water give us a break we definately could do with one down here, give me Thames average bill any day.
We look for all methods of saving water here, when running the shower before we get in we use a bucket tho collect the water that would otherwise go down the drain to use to flush the loo. Collect the water from the tumble dryer instead of throwing it away, don't run water cleaning teeth etc.

gartons 19 Aug 2008, 9:17am

Bathe together

topshare 19 Aug 2008, 9:22am

Why is it that people who chose to have several children complain that they cannot afford to pay the going rate for water ? The whole point about the water meter is that it makes you think about consumption and waste, and also gives you the opportunity to use and pay for merely as much or as little as you need ! The system fairest to all is one that costs you according to usage - whether it is water, electricity, gas, rail fares, petrol, food or luxury holidays. Why should my 94-year-old widowed mother-in-law subsidise the water usage of a family of four employed adults living in an identical house next door to her ?

gttttg 19 Aug 2008, 9:23am

I applied to Thames Water for a meter and was told that if my property was built before 1960 (which it is) I would have to have all underground pipes inspected at my expense. If I went ahead without an inspection and there were problems I was responsible for all costs involved. Hence, I am not on a meter yet! Has anybody else experienced this and what did it involve please? I live on my own and pay £44 per month!

Anfauglir 19 Aug 2008, 9:30am

"Eight Ways To Cut Your Water Bill"?

Erm...not really. One POSSIBLE way (a water meter), and 7 ways to save water - not to save money! I'm all in favour of not wasting water, but as a non-metered customer with a growing family, none of the tips will actually save me money!

Good article - misleading title!

gladioligal 19 Aug 2008, 9:36am

We moved house in Nov from a 4 bed detached with a water meter where we paid £350 a year to 4 bed detached which was non metered. (We have 2 small kids and often have a lodger.) Hooray, I thought, I no longer have to be so careful, until my bills for the year ahead came in. For a years supply with South E water and Southern Water they amounted to £800. I thought this was a mistake until I discovered my friends who were also in 4 bed detached houses in the same area were all paying the same! I have gone straight back on a meter and even if we are careless we are unlikely to use up the £450 worth of water we are saving. It is not the case that bigger houses should stay non-metered, though strangely my friends paying £800 are all choosing not to go metered through some kind of irrational fear of paying more!

We are careful and already follow the advice in the article, plus not flushing the loo after every visit if the whole family is going at the same time before we go out.

profresh 19 Aug 2008, 9:38am

from my experience water metre is a rip off, compare to water rate.
for a family of two my water metre charge is £987 a year, Compare to a family friend of 6 in that £289.00 a year from water rate.
water metre is hugely miss read, it rediculous. I have argue my case with thames water who but it down to leakage but nothing has change because I after testing they found no leakage. So water metre is a rip off

stevepaynegx 19 Aug 2008, 9:46am

Surface Water Drainage Rebate.
I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this standing annual charge (£25) which can be rebated.
The sewerage charge you pay includes the cost of removing and treating surface water. This is the water that falls on your roof or the hard paved surfaces of your property.
You qualify for a rebate if :
• all the rainwater from your roof or shared roof drains into a soakaway both at the front and rear of your property, and,
• all the rainwater from your garden, drive, patio or yard runs off into the soil.

You DO NOT qualify if:
• part of your surface water goes to a soakaway
• you use a water butt but have no soakaways
• the water from your roof runs indirectly to the sewer.
A soakaway is where water from your roof, etc, is piped to a large underground pit filled with gravel within the boundary of the property, normally 10 to 15 feet away from the house foundations.
There's usually a form you can download on your water comapny's website. It's your money not theirs!

teaboy100 19 Aug 2008, 9:47am

For a start, make much more use of grey water - collect bath and shower water (leave the plug in the bath) and use this to flush the loo or water the garden.
And on a more contravertial note - do we all wash ourselves and our clothes too much? Why do you shower before you go to bed, then again when you get up?
Imagine how much water you would use if you had to manually get it from a well first.
Worth a thought really.

PJB50 19 Aug 2008, 10:13am

StevePayneQX said Surface Water Drainage Rebate.
I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this standing annual charge (£25) which can be rebated

In the Anglian Water region, the rebate is £32 per year and the conditions are not as strict as Steve suggests.

One clue as to whether your house qualifies is whether it is (or was) connected to a septic tank for foul water drainage. If you are on one of these, the drainage company wants to reduce the volume of water as much as possible, so makes other arrangements for surface water.

pjharr 19 Aug 2008, 10:16am

Dilute any water to make it last longer

pandeb 19 Aug 2008, 10:19am

It's true - gray water management and use really does make a difference. In our case it was a reduction of 51% on our latest water bill compared to the previous six months.

It all came about when our dishwasher was out of order and we used the dirty water on our garden plants, adding in cold tea and some other 'unmentionables' - my potatos are consequently better than they've ever been!!!!!. At the same time we used bathroom sink water for flushing the loos.

An annual saving of 100GBP or so is well worth the extra effort.

dayvem2003 19 Aug 2008, 10:28am

From a south west water customer.
If everybody went on meters and achieved huge savings then the water companies would just put the price of the water charges up. Lets face it the water companies want profits and a drop in consumption would hurt them and they in turn would hurt us back by raising prices. Our water prices have been consistently the highest in the country for years yet only recently has our sewerage been treated before being discharged to the sea (SW water had been discharging raw sewage into the sea for years with the only treatment being a mesh covering on the discharge pipe to make the raw sewage small enough so it wasnt entirely visible) and has the treatment been upgraded to the best available ER NO just to what makes it legal so in my opinion as a south west water customer I pay top prices for a basic water service and I subsidise all the holiday businesses (ie the caravan parks and businesses who utilise the county tourist trade to make money) to keep the beaches clean for their guests and customers. Offwatt are a joke to even consider these price rises all I see from offwatt is protection to the water companies and none to their customers. Dayvem

bethybird 19 Aug 2008, 10:30am

I am beeing taken to court at the moment by United utilities. ALL residents in my are pay around £340 per year water rates top £400. My house is a newer build 1962 3bed surrounded by large victorian houses 5-6 bed. My water rates per year are £920 I have paid united utilities £450 well above local average & asked them to review my bill inline with everyone else. They say dispite making millions in profit they have no department that can review bill. the bills are set in stone.... I don't expect water for free but lets face it the water boards have done nothing for years they should be held accountable for the state the water pipes are in. Over the years millions of new houses/flats have been built so again they are getting more & more money from more people, demand has gone up but how many have homes abroad now & rarely use water in their homes during times away.. I am tempted to build a swimming pool (lol if only we could afford one) we may aswell get value for money. I feel it is blackmail. I have NO option but to use united utilities no other supplier or competitor in Manchester area this is not fair so why has office of fair traiding not stept in to monitor all of this. If we lived in France I'm sure EVERYONE would refuse to pay until fair price set. Running out of money to live in UK such a shame greedy companies pricing us all out.

Jan5a 19 Aug 2008, 10:31am

I've seen the comment "Don’t leave the tap running constantly while you’re brushing your teeth" many times before.

As someone who has never run a tap whilst brushing teeth, could someone please explain to me why anyone does this? I'm sitting here feeling really ignorant because I honestly can't think why ...

magicblonde 19 Aug 2008, 10:35am

In the 1970s, during drought times, there was a saying "If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down" - anyone remember this? When we moved into a big house with a water meter (only 2 of us) we did become more conscious of water usage. I now rarely use the dishwasher - for two of us it doesn't take long to wash by hand, when the washing machine needed replacing, I bought one with a half-load option, and we follow the old 1970s rule when there's just the two of us around.

I also like pjharr's comment about diluting water - with whisky perhaps? :-)

mart1974 19 Aug 2008, 10:44am

I live alone in a 3 bed flat and it is not possible to install a water meter. I have called Thames water to explain that I am only a single occupant but paying the 'going' rate for a property of this size. They won't change the billing and I can't see a way to reduce this charge - they refuse/say they are unable to bill me the same as the average meter usage for somebody in the same situation and insisit they can 'only' charge me the potential value of the property. Any ideas?
Many thanks,

Martin

Many thanks,

Martin

throttlestop 19 Aug 2008, 10:45am

Pee in the garden.

To fill [note how we speak of "filling" a kettle -- even our use of language tends to programme us to waste] a kettle with just the right amount, fill a cup and pour the requisite number of cupfuls into the kettle. After a few goes it becomes habitual. Otherwise, filling the kettle directly from the tap invariably results in excess water in the kettle. NB this does not save much water -- just a bit that evaporates when the kettle boils -- it saves the energy required to boil the water in the kettle. (If you have an exposed element in your kettle, you need to make sure it is just covered with water, to avoid it overheating.)

Surely, the rule of thumb has to be to get a meter if the number of occupants exceeds the number of bedrooms.

My girlfriend and I hate showers -- we always bathe together. No-one ever compares a shower with less than half a bath (less than half thanks to Archimedes).

I have a big butt (if you excuse the expression) and have re-plumbed so my downstairs loo, dishwasher and washing machine use natural, soft rainwater.

bethybird 19 Aug 2008, 10:50am

Hi mart 1974 I have been told that as water is essential to life, if you don't pay bills they can't cut water supplies off will let you know how I go on after court case & if this is true lol. very interested in your re-plumb throttlestop sounds like fab idea how did you get this done?

Ted64 19 Aug 2008, 10:51am

I saved a small fortune by installing rain water butts. The water is used to water the garden and wash the car. Being on a water meter the water used to water the garden & wash the car was charge as both water in and sewage out. Now its free as long as it rains. I wish I had installed the water butts a lot sooner.

scorpwhizzy 19 Aug 2008, 10:56am

Were building new 4 bed house installing 5000L tank in the ground will supply all loos and washing machine. were living on site at the moment in a static caravan, i converted loo to run on rain water and my water bill is £50 ish a year sewage is around £110.
I believe all new houses should be built like this with all the new housing that will be built in the south (where we are) the strain on the water table will be too much, thay are even talking seriously about desalination in parts of Hampshire it wil be that bad.

petitemisschief 19 Aug 2008, 11:44am

Being someone who hates waste I think water meters should be compulsory. People will then rethink how they use water and there won't be so much wasted, just like we are all having to do with fuel. In my household there is myself and 2 teenagers, we all have a bath or shower each day, both the washer and dishwasher are on 3 or 4 times a week. The only concession I've made since becoming metered is not using a hose either for the garden or washing the car. I'm with Yorkshire Water and pay £30 per month over 12 months which I think is reasonable. In the 15 years that I've had the meter the cost has probably doubled. If I'd been billed by the rateable value I'd have been much worse off. The more water we use the more it costs the water companies. Logically if we were all on water meters the cost would go down for all of us as we would all be more economical. (Thats of course excluding the greed of big business!) I've just been reading an article that the world faces a water shortage in the coming eyars due to the increase in population - perhaps now is the time for us all to be personally accountable for the water we use.

sparkyscientist 19 Aug 2008, 12:24pm

Wash my car?? I did that last year, and I'll do it again next year (whether it needs it or not)...

NOTOVERTHEHILL 19 Aug 2008, 12:45pm

Tonyblue's idea of using a water butt is excellent... but, here... don't I recall - in the early days of water privatisation - that a pub (was it the Cat and the Fiddle?) used this extremely sensible device to collect water off their own roof - to be informed by the newly-formed water
carpetbaggers (sorry, water company) that there was a CHARGE for this. That is, for using your own water. Perhaps I dreamt this but didn't the water company say the water was THEIRS?

McLeodC 19 Aug 2008, 12:48pm

It's always worth insulating water pipes, even where there is no risk of them freezing - this will reduce both energy and water wastage.
DIY insulation foam will help keep water in the hot pipes hot, and water in the cold pipes cool, so you won't have to run off large amounts of water (including expensively-heated water) until the taps run at the temperature you want.
If you're having building work done, it's also sensible to plan the plumbing to minimise the length of pipe runs, especially for hot-water pipes.

ScottyD73 19 Aug 2008, 12:53pm

From my experience if you are careful with your water usage and observe the ways to save it, being on a meter is cheaper.
There are four of us in the house (2 adults, 2 kids 6 & 8 years) and we are better off by far in the Anglia water region.
We are not obsessive about water consveration but do take care with it as at the end of the day it costs us!
I would like to think that if we all had to stop and think about water usage prices would level (hmmmm) for all because people on rates can use as much as they like. I know people in the Three Valleys region who pay very little in comparison in rates but brag about leaving their sprinklers on for hours etc (apparentl it's their right or something!). Bascially other more careful users are subsidising this arrogance.
At least we are now seeing new properties being fitted with meters and people moving house are required to convert upon arrival if one is not already installed.
Yikes - I am starting to sound like some mad eco-warrior....where's that funny farm address....

Aposentado 19 Aug 2008, 1:22pm

"Many people find they are better off with a water meter. What’s more, the meter should be installed free of charge"

Hi,

following the above statment on the article I had to let know to the public that Thames Water does NOT install water meter for free into my flat.

There fore I do not have my rights respected. Shall I sue the Company? Any other advise, please?

Regards

A

waynfletebass 19 Aug 2008, 1:59pm

My new house built in 2001 has modern single flush cisterns. With all of them it is necessary to flush them multiple times to remove solid waste. What a waste of water! The modern use of small amounts of water to flush a toilet is counter-productive. My old house had a dual flush cistern which was mush better so the amount of water needed could be controlled.

On the issue of running water, until my wife died earlier this year I had live-in carers. Without exception they all washed up under a running hot tap. I could never persuade any of them to use a bowl for washing up.

As I am alone now my water bill with a meter should drop considerably.

Browndipper 19 Aug 2008, 2:32pm

A brick (or two) is a cheaper alternative to a Hippo if you want to reduce your flush volume.

natouille 19 Aug 2008, 2:33pm

Sorry bethybird, I am french and the system is similar to the uk. To this difference. All individual properties are fitted with meters since 1960 (Flats and houses). For older properties, example in Paris, the water is averaged and based on the dimension of the property in square meters. So larger properties paying more than smaller irrespective to number of occupants. Same as UK.
Water is either managed by private companies or managed by the city (distribution, drainage, water treatment). Some cities prefer to have control and some are happy to have it managed by the private sector.
I am french and I have a property in France (also my family in Paris). I am not sure where you get your information from.

moleylabbie 19 Aug 2008, 2:37pm

Where I live in Dover it is also compulsory to have a water metre. Any new properties have them already, while the old ones get a metre fitted when you move in. It has saved us money compaired to the standard rate so pretty pleased with it.

BrokenNotBroke 19 Aug 2008, 4:07pm

Let us all thank a previous government for privatising water companies who now make a profit from supplying people with an essential product. Can we switch supplier? No. So the point of privatisation was...?

I work for a water company and see the pressures from all sides; profits for shareholders, increasing population and new housing to service, legal obligations regarding quality and leakage levels, spiralling energy costs...

The water companies are caught in the middle between the consumers and the legislation forced upon them, and their operating costs.

You can't cut your water bill, you can only cut your water usage.

I like to look at it this way: if all the treated water was free of charge, but their was no sewarage (which is *included* in your water bill don't forget) then how much would you be willing to pay, per month, for a company to deal with what you flush down the toilet?

susancs 19 Aug 2008, 5:19pm

We live in mid-Kent and water services are split between South East Water (supply) and Southern Water (sewerage), so 2 bills and double admin costs. Didn't realise until recently, however, that sewerage costs are directly tied to amount of water used, so it seems worth switching. Trouble is, having been surveyed for a meter, we are still waiting for it to be fitted (could apparently take up to 3 months ...) Also, do make sure you check for possible leaks - most people around us save money on meters but the people opposite us were not making savings and were found to have a leak. I totally agree about lack of competition in the water industry - after all, we don't actually get a different supply of gas or electricity, it's all just a billing exercise.

vurrister 19 Aug 2008, 5:57pm

The importance of water conservation depends on where you live. Those in the Sout East, and to a lesser degree the South West particularly on the chalk areas need to be more concerned; but many other parts are virtually up to their arm pits in it. Did you know that under current legislation you can take up to a maximum of 20cu.m of ground water a day - that's 20000 ltrs without requiring a licence and free of charge appart from the cost is finding it; drawing it off and possibly treating it; the cost of which could be no more than installing solar panels. If you live in a flood plane for example as quite a lot seem to do; chances are there is water not far below your feet; - small scale treatment is relatively cheap these days and the payback in quality alone is worthwhile; but if you can draw in excess of 80 ltrs a minute you can then begin to utilise the goethermal advantages of heating by open looped ground water source heat-pump which is far more effecient than the close looped ground source equivelent. But one word of advice. You would need expert and right now there are experts and experts out there (if you know what I mean)

kazgo 19 Aug 2008, 6:39pm

Hi, I live in a block of flats built in 1973 and we have all opted to change to water meters over the years. Mine was installed free of charge and has saved me money compared to rates. I am unsure why it is a problem for Mart1974 and Doloskea to have a meter just because they live in flats - can anyone enlighten me?

Honeybabe44 19 Aug 2008, 6:58pm

hello notoverthehill...yes you,re right...there was/is a charge for conserving your own water...as the water company states or should i say demands..it is their water..strange innit...the waterboards own the rainfall and the americans own the moon. to which they will gladly try and sell you a piece of lol...however back to the metering part, I worked for Kent Meters Ltd in Luton for a number of years working on both home market and exports..back in the day of the mid 80,s I remember the Isle of Wight being guinea pigs to the metering system and they were not happy bunnies, as all of you in some form have mentioned your ways of saving or conserving water even the Isle of Wight weighted down their toilet flushing system with bricks, in those days I used to say to friends and colleagues, whatever you do in life DO NOT get a water meter...I was then on the rateable usage..these days..I say...You cant beat a water meter, i was paying back in 1995-99 about £30 per month for 10 months..I moved property to a 3 bed detached and already a water meter was in place..and yes...dear old Kent Meters made it...i,ve been on this meter since moving here and my bill per month hasn't moved from £30 a month..I run a pond quite a large one that has a habit in the winter of draining itself leaving my poor old koi flapping around and I must say this pond holds some gallons, yet i moan at the old man for filling up a sink to dip his head in,( i,d like to drown him) joke...IMHO my advice now would be..get a water meter, its true to say...you are more conscious of your consumption but hey...it works out so much cheaper and if the waterboards are thinking of hiking rateable usage customers bills by 40% then it may warrant a good talk with your head or your partner/spouse...

ancientaviatior 19 Aug 2008, 7:04pm

For those of you with water meters and readers who are into conservation, please may I pass on this water saving tip. Take a "Navy Shower". Fresh water on warships was always in short supply so the "Navy Shower" is 30 seconds on to get wet then turn off the water. Lather up with the water off, then 30 seconds with the water back on to rince off. Navy shower....Done! Oh, for the female readers for seconds read minutes.

bethybird 19 Aug 2008, 7:16pm

Hi Natouille, ment no malice to the French quite the opposite I am envious of the way the French stick together on most economic matters. If the UK did this over Bank of England rates, gas, electricity,petrol ,& mad water rate system we would all be better off. Quite agree how can something with no competition be privatised but we will all just keep on paying because thats what we have to do.......ho hum

Barrydrake 19 Aug 2008, 10:03pm

Amazing isn't it! A green and pleasant land where it never stops raining and yet water - an essential resource - which I would have said any hard cpressed family should have as a right is very very expensive. Why was water privatised? It certainly doesn't seem to have been to benefit the consumer.I think the company I subscribe to is owned by the French . Well I'm sure they've got my interests at heart- I mean it's one thing to buy a Citroen but there you go. Perhaps Gordon Brown is thinking of flogging our health service to the Russians - They seem like nice people - unless you live in Georgia that is . I think if I had lived in Guy Fawkes's days I would have been helping him to pack the gunpowder in the barrels. The mind numbing stupidity of our politicians past and present defeats me.
Gordon Brown might well be saying :
Let's have a brain storming session at this very moment and think of some new stupid things to do.

atseyes 19 Aug 2008, 11:24pm

How can you wash up under running water? what happens to the washing up liquid, or do people that do this not use any. I always use a bowlful of water; and, for that matter, a basin of water to shave in.
Oh and, magicblonde, having just read your comment, surely there is only one liquid which should be diluted with whisky, and that is green ginger wine - Crabbies, of course!

tizhimi 19 Aug 2008, 11:49pm

Guys guys guys, there is a VERY simple way to save water....

Save water....
Drink BEER!